Showing posts with label giant reign 2012. Show all posts
Showing posts with label giant reign 2012. Show all posts

Sunday, January 22, 2012

#233 - Changes to my Reign


Below are the changes I have been doing to my Reign.
The changes that I have done (and still doing) hopefully
makes my Reign easier to handle.

L-R : Thomson Elite Setback 30.9mm cut to 375 mm length
stock Anthem Giant setback seatpost 30.9mm 375mm length
Giant Switch R 30.9 mm 375mm length
SeatPost

I have to be honest. One of the things that made me buy
the Reign 1 is the dropper seatpost. However, I have brought
my Reign to several trails around Singapore and the thing is
I seldom use the dropper seatpost. In fact, I couldn't get
used to the notion that before any steep downhill section,
I have to press the remote and bump my saddle down
with my butt... not to mention the things that I read on
the net about dropper posts failing at the most ill
opportune times. This has even led me to bring a separate
seatpost in my bag. Do you know anyone who has
a spare seatpost in his bag?

Anyway, above are my 3 choices for the seatpost.
Although the Thomson is the lighter choice,
I chose to go with the Giant seatpost that came
with my Anthem. I find the setback style of
Thomson ugly hehehe.



Fulcrum Red Metal 10 with Ashima 160mm
Airotor (claimed weight 85g)


Width of the Fulcrum Red Metal 10 is 19mm


Stock Giant wheelset comprised of DT Swiss E540
rims + Shimano M525 hubs ... not sure what the
spokes are. The brake rotor is by Avid.

The stock wheelset is 22mm in width

Wheelset

This is a very important component. It is always
wise to save weight on anything that spins.
The easier and more expensive way is just to order
a set of ZTR Flows + Hope hubs + DT Swiss spokes.
But having just paid for a whole bike, I don't have
the money for a new set of wheels ... maybe for
my birthday ?! Ahem ahem.

I have 1 set of Fulcrum Metal 10s lying around with
a pair of Ashima Airotors. Looking at the stock wheelset
and my spare wheelset, I thought that the Fulcrums will
be a lot lighter. However, the weight difference is just
a 100grams plus! I then measured the inner width of the
rims and found that the Fulcrums are 19mm and the
stock wheelsets are 22mm ... hmmm I think for this
one, any weight savings will be offset by the effects
of a skinnier rim ... and so in this case I decided to
go with the heavier wheel BUT I changed the
Avid 160mm rotor to Ashima Airotors.

Stock Avid 180mm front rotor

XT 180mm front rotor
Brake Rotors

One day, while loitering around Hup Leong, I saw
these 180mm XT disk brake rotors on offer for 50%
off. I can't remember the exact price but I paid just
20$ odd (23$? 26$? around there).

When I got home, I immediately weighed them. I also
took off the stock Avid 180mm rotors to see their weight.
As you can see, the Avids are lighter ... but since (1) I already
took them off, (2) the XTs are nicer, and (3) it would be a
shame if I don't use them, I attached the XT rotor to my
front wheel. Did I notice any difference in braking? Let's
call a spade a spade ok? No difference!

Don't do this. I can't find a post to post 180mm
adaptor for the rear brakes so I tried this.
This is the change that made a lot of difference!
Since, I now have a 180mm Avid lying around, I decided
to use it on the rear. I searched high and low for an
adaptor for Avid Elixir brakes that will make me
mount a 180mm rotor on the rear of a post mount
frame. I can't find any. I then took some very long
screws and added spacers to it until the brake calipers
clear the rotors. Success! I went to BT and Rooty
Trail, verryy nice (<== said like Borat).

On the way home, I went to Tay Cyles at Bukit Timah
and had a chat with one of the mechanics there. I was
willing to pay Tay Cycle BT price (which is very high)
as long as they can give me a post to post mount for
180mm rear brakes. They don't have any. The mechanic
also told me that it is not a good idea to do what I just did.
He said, yes it will work, then slowly, the screw holes
will loosen and then it will be bye bye screw holes
... and since the screw holes are post mount ... then
bye bye frame.

After that, I quickly went home while consciously using
just the front brakes (hehehe) and after I rested, I quickly
dismantled my 180mm modification. Now I'm back to
using a 160mm Ashima Airotor at the back :(



Left is 11-36 10spd SLX cassette, Right is 11-36 10spd XT cassette

The pic above is just for info. I didn't change my cassette
to XT... which is just as well since the scales say it is just
around 30grams lighter than the SLX cassette that I have.


A low mount FD should be the solution for the chain rub
issue that I was facing. BUT, take a look at the areas pointed
to by the arrows. I think the suspension will hit them when
it compresses ...

Just a little bit of a backgound, the Reign 1 2012 came
with a triple ring SLX crankset. The rings are 40T-32T-24T.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, I noticed that I very seldom
use the 40T on the trails since the Reign is heavier than my
usual XC bikes. I took out the 40T and substituted it with
a bash guard. After that, my biggest chainring became 32T.

I cycle to whichever trail I go. If I am alone, I can
take my own sweet time. But when I am with the 'peloton',
it is very difficult to keep up with just 32T as the biggest
chainring. ALSO! If you notice, the smallest chainring
is now 24T. Last time, I used 22T. So now, I have
a lower than usual gear for the road AND a higher than
usual gear for the trails ?! What do I do?

Good thing I have this 2 chainring SLX lying around :)
and so, I took out the new SLX and in went the old
2 chainring SLX in it's place. For those of you who
are wondering, yes, the old SLX is for a 9 speed drivetrain
BUT it will work with a 10 speed front shifter AND
it will also work with a 10speed chain.

The problem now is that when I shift to 22T, the
chain rubs on the lower part of the FD cage.

This is what I was trying to solve with the photo above.
I tried to use a low mount, 9 speed XT FD on the Reign.
but as you can see, although, it is ok to mount, it seems
that there will be problems when the suspension is
compressed. See photo above.

Top left : I had to mount the FD at the lowest point possible
Top right : Now when I shift here ...
Bottom : ... the chain does not rub any more
 In the end, I went back to the original FD. I mounted
it to the lowest possible point and after a few magic
incantations the chain now clears the FD cage when
I'm using the 22T chain ring (see arrow in photo above).
However, note that if you cross chain, say, use 22T in
front with 11T at the back, then for sure you will have
chain rub issues.

... and last but not the least,
we debunk Giant's OverDrive2 standard.

Background again, please read this article from BikeRadar.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, Giant seemed to have this
burning desire to be different thus creating a new standard
called Overdrive2 which means the upper part of the steerer
is supposed to be 1 and 1/4 inches while the bottom part
remains as 1 and a half inches. I even bemoaned the fact
that since the steerer is now bigger, the rest of the stems
that I have will no longer work.

Then this morning, Deck popped me in WhatsApp
saying : hey, our fork steerer can accept the normal
sized stems. This text was followed by a picture showing
his fork's steerer being 'pinched' by his digital calipers.
I said he must be dreaming. Wait a while and I will show
him the error of his ways.

I took out the top cap of my fork followed by the
OverDrive2 spacers. I then took a normal sized carbon
spacer and tried to push it onto the steerer of my Reign
fork expecting that the steerer will not go thru the spacer.
But it went thru !!! Huh?!?!

See the pictures below. It seems that the only thing
that is sized 1 and a quarter inches here are the spacers.
The steerer is normal sized!

I immediately ditched the Giant 70mm stem and
replaced it with a Spank Oozy 50mm stem :)

Top spacer is stock Reign. See gap pointed to by the arrow.
Bottom spacer is normal spacer. Note that steerer is supposed
to be 1 inch AND a quarter.

Left is a pic of a normal spacer. Note absence of gap.
Right is spacer from Reign 2012. Note presence of gap.


Monday, December 19, 2011

#226 - Giant Reign 1 2012




The cat's out of the bag :-) After four years of begging
for an All-Mountain bike, Santa Claus (AKA my wife)
has finally relented and so I got a Giant Reign 1 2012
for Christmas !

I took my own sweet time before I started any sort
of  'review' for this bike. To date, I have brought this
bike to four offroad rides (mainly in Rooty Trail) and
one city ride where I descended on all the stairs that
I could find from Kallang PCN up to Boat Quay.
But still, I think I have barely scratched the surface
of what this bike can do (especially the DH part).

Ok, let's start.

Fork - the bike came with a 150mm RockShox
Revelation. This is the RLT version and it comes
complete with lockout and a negative air spring.
The front wheel is connected to the fork using
Frankentein's favourite - a big screw! Also, the
steerer is now  1 1/4" at the top and 1 1/2" at
the bottom.  This promises unheard of stiffness
in the steering department. However, God help
you if ever you need a different length stem or
if ever you need a new stem.

Rear Shock - Giant equipped the bike with
a Monarch RT. Up to this day, I'm still scratching
my head about this shock. This is the picture of
the blue lever on that picture is missing from the shock
that I have on my bike. In place of the blue lever, is
a gold dial which is something like a blow-off valve.
Now, on my Reba (and the Revelation fork on this bike),
you lock the fork and then you set up the blow-off
using that gold dial. So I am wondering how I'm
going to use this gold dial on the shock when I can't
lock the shock in the first place???

GroupSet - funny thing that I had my first taste
of a 3x10 speed groupset (SLX) on an AM bike
instead of a CrossCountry bike. My 3x9speed
SLX has never let me down since 2008 and
I expect the same from the 3x10speed version.

Brakes - The brakes that came with the bike
are Avid Elixir 5s. The brake disks are 180mm
in front and 160mm at the back. These brakes
seem to lack in the braking power department.
I am used to SLX brakes with sintered KoolStop
pads and these Elixir 5s are nowhere near the
power of that setup. The good thing though is,
I'm not sure how it happened, but I tend to brake
more using the front brakes with this bike. If I
have powerful brakes that may send me straight
to Endo City. So, all in all, I don't see any issues
with the brakes (yet).

Wheelset and tires - The rims for this bike are
DT Swiss E540 (which as the name implies are
540grams in weight). The front hub is Giant's own
15mm Tracker hub. The rear hub is a Shimano
Deore number. The tires that came with the bike
are Maxxis Minion DHF 2.35 (F) and Maxxis
High Roller 2.35 (R). However, knowing how
anorexic Maxxis tires can get, I decided to change
the tires to Kenda Nevegal 2.35 Stick-E compound
for both front and rear (hehehe bad move).

SeatPost and Saddle - Giant has been equipping
their bikes now with Fizik saddles. My Anthem came
with Fizik Tundra, I can't remember which saddle came
with Paolo and Bal's Trance (surely Fizik, but which model?),
and now my Reign came with Gobi. The seatpost is the
new Giant Switch telescoping seatpost with Remote.
What disturbs me is that the Reign 0 (the next highest
model for Reign) comes with a Joplin seatpost.
The Joplin seatpost, if you believe all the reviews
on the net, must be the worst ever telescoping seatpost
of all time... and it is not cheap! So when Giant
equips their Reign 0 with Joplin and Reign 1
with the Switch, what does that mean???
Having that in mind, for the first 2 rides, I brought
a spare Thomson Elite seatpost with me
jussstttt in case.

Stem and HandleBar - As I mentioned before, Giant
seem to be having this overwhelming urge to be different
and so the fork steerer is now 1 1/4". It follows that the
stem is also that size and the length is 70mm with 8 degree
rise. If this does not suit you, then you might be out of luck
as I think only Giant manufactures this size of stem.
The handlebar is the exact same handlebar that
came with my Anthem. This is another head scratcher
for me as I find it odd that Giant chose to equip their
XC bikes with the same handlebar as their AM bikes.
What does that mean? Does it mean that the bar is
sooo wide for XC that Giant expected us to cut
down the bar? But I didn't cut down my bar.
Is that wrong then?

Anyway, that's the rundown of the bike specs and
so we now go and ride!









Changes


1. The moment I sat on the bike, the first thing that I
felt was ... this bike's handlebar is soooo 'tall'. Coming
from an XC background, I can't stand this. I took all the
spacers from under the stem and placed them all on top.
The stem is now at it's lowest. BUT the handlebar still
felt 'high'. I complained about this to SR Deck and he
told me that since the stem has an 8degree rise, I should
go and flip the stem upside down.... I said ... uhhh that
might result on some weird and funky steering traits
so I better not do that.

2. I thought that when I press the remote for the seatpost,
my bum will just go down? No? It didn't do that. I 
thought I got a lemon. In the end, I realised I had to
give the seatpost a bit of a 'nudge' before it will go down.
Going up is nice and smooth though.

Now, off to the trails :

3. Tires - I thought I was going to pass out !  The decision
to change the original tires to 2.35 Stick-E Nevegals
was definitely wrong! They were sooo draggy! After
just one trail ride, I changed back to the original tires
and I am now even contemplating on putting on 2.1
Crossmarks at the rear when all the mud dries up in
Rooty Trail.

4. I used the Switch Seatpost for two rides, it was
very nice to ride with the saddle lowered all the way
when going downhill BUT I find that there is actually
no need to lower the saddle that much in our trails.
So after 2 trail rides, I took off the Switch seatpost
and changed it to a setback Thomson Elite seatpost.
The bike is not just lighter now, my backpack is
lighter as well since I don't have to carry a spare
seatpost.

5. The steering is very twitchy! Is it because I lowered
the stem too much? Anyway, lowering the stem seems
to have helped in the climbing department and so I will
not put back the spacers under the stem. ... and so I
went hunting for a 700mm handlebar ... not just a normal
700mm handlebar, it has to be low-rise (stock Giant bar
has a 19degree rise), in fact I know that there are wide
straight handlebars (e.g. Sunline) ... but it has to be cheap
too hehehehehe. Lo and behold, when I went last Saturday
to Hup Leong's X'mas Sale, I saw a ControlTech 700mm
flat bar that only costs 66$ before discount! I got that!
Lucky, since it was the last piece. See picture above
comparing the ControlTech straightbar with the original
Giant bar.

6. Did I mention that the bike does NOT come with
pedals? Yup, you need to fork out more money to
get pedals. Nice thing that I have a pair of new XT
Trail Pedals lying at home just waiting for this bike.

7. Lastly (whew!), there are lots of fallen trees
in our trails nowadays due to the never ending rain.
After two trail rides, I noticed that I have been using
my biggest chainring more as a fallen tree crampon.
I use the biggest chainring when I'm on the road going
to the trails but I never utilise the 11T on my cassette.
So I thought the biggest chainring had to go! Good thing
there are some cheap and good bashrings at Hup Leong's
sales bin. I got a black MRP bashring for 28$ and
I installed it myself at home.


That's all! I am very happy with the changes I made.
I went to go for a trail ride yesterday (Sunday) and
everything was almost perfect ... I said almost because
... my wheelset seems to be heavy? (evil laughter ensues.....)